14
Jan
11

Suicide

Marvel Comics teamed up with the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline and has put up a free Captain America comic available online that specifically addresses the issue of suicide.

There are about 33,000 suicides every year in America. Some 25,000 of these are men. That makes it the 8th leading cause of death among males. Interestingly it also seems to be a white phenomenon. 73% of all suicide deaths are white males. Not sure why that is, but it is well beyond statistical noise so it really stands out when looking at the numbers.

But as big as the numbers are, this is a largely ignored issue. Certainly the male aspect of it is. Of course the MRA corner of the blogosphere has certainly taken this up, but it is often still something seen as just an abstract concept. Sure, men commit suicide at greater rates than women. But its not like its personal right? Well, Hawaiian Libertarian was recently affected by such a tragedy. You can read his account of the death of a longtime friend here and then here. I am both glad that he posted this, as well as saddened by his loss.

About.com lists some of the risk factors as

# Using drugs and/or alcohol to help cope with emotions, relationships, pressure of work etc.
# Social isolation, living alone.
# Not being able to form or sustain meaningful relationships.
# Divorce or relationship breakdowns.
# A history of physical and sexual abuse.
# Imprisonment.
# Being bullied at school/college/work.
# unemployment.
# loss of a loved one through trauma or disease.
# mental illness, particularly where this is related to depression. painful and/or debilitating illnesses or conditions.

Obviously the divorce/relationship breakdown are a huge factor, and unemployment is also another problem with the continued lack of jobs. But I would want to point out that last line regarding depression. I’ve blogged on it previously, but want to state again that the common concept of depression is really more of the way females experience depression. Sure men can also get sad and gloomy when depressed, but a more common and unfortunately missed symptom of male depression is anger. MayoClinic lists the symptoms of male depression as

* Escapist behavior, such as spending a lot of time at work or on sports
* Alcohol or substance abuse
* Controlling, violent or abusive behavior
* Inappropriate anger
* Risky behavior, such as reckless driving
* Infidelity or unhealthy sexual relationships

Note that none of these are the standard conception of depression. Rather, they are usually just written off as stereotypical male behavior. We need, as a society, to recognize these symptoms in our men and start coming along side of them to get them past the depression, instead of just writing them off. There is a defined and knowable cost of not doing this. Its at least 25,000 needless deaths every year. Its certainly time to change this.

The statistics used for this post can be found at suicide.org

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3 Responses to “Suicide”


  1. January 14, 2011 at 7:09 PM

    You would think if women were so oppressed and held back, they would be the ones with more suicide. I think this speaks as to who really suffers in our society –men. Probably if you went back even 100-150 years ago, the male suicide rates would be just as high. Women had it good then and continue to do so now.

    I agree about the tendency to “write men off” who exhibit such behavior. That is how feminist sum up a lot of the MRAs….they are just crazy, woman hating men–forget about them. OR with porn or drug addicts, they love to shame them about how bad they are, but care nothing about helping them to recover.

  2. January 17, 2011 at 8:36 AM

    I am both glad that he posted this, as well as saddened by his loss.

    Thank you for your empathy. It’s been almost 2 months now, and the more I find out about his situation, the more real all this shit we discuss in the manosphere becomes apparent.

  3. January 17, 2011 at 2:04 PM

    Men have it..hard 🙂 No seriously they do. It’s all on their shoulders. And for one, I am blessed being born female. With that a gracious female understands and helps aid the stresses of being born male. I am not even pulling a leg here.

    As a female, I am strong. I am not expected to be this however.

    As a female, I was the bread winner, again, no expectations, just applause from everyone who supported me.

    I squished the spiders, even tho I screamed when I did. A hero to many fellow women friends.

    Do you see where I am going?

    Being male, being EXPECTED to be strong, fight addictions, mental depressions, provide a family with a good income, etc… Wow, maybe man is SUPER HERO!

    You dudes, got it going on.

    I for one, am pleased as punch to have you aboard this ship called life. You’re someone to hold onto, maintain a balance, and stroke, forever and ever and ever 🙂


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