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2014: The Exodus

Yesterday Congress set the date for the exodus. Jan 1, 2014.

Thats right, yesterday they passed the “healthcare reform” bill, which will mandate all sorts of stupid ass crap upon the American people despite their lack of authority to do so. For those looking to expat, make sure you are gone before that time so you don’t have to put up with that crap.

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18 Responses to “2014: The Exodus”


  1. 1 newly divorced
    March 22, 2010 at 4:22 PM

    Let’s get the hell out of here. See how they do without our taxes.

  2. March 22, 2010 at 7:23 PM

    Dan,

    This bill is a way to take from the productive and give it to those who are not. It forces the young to subsidize the old and men to subsidize women. The calculations the gov made as far as how much it will cost are overly optimistic and I think the gov is not counting upon the producers simply leaving the country. I think a larger percentage will be more interested in their personal freedom than in their homeland and will leave this system leaving it to collapse without the input of those it will be dependent upon. And without those people, it will all collapse sooner than you might think

  3. March 23, 2010 at 4:46 AM

    Congress has proven this year that they don’t need tax money for anything. They can just print it.

  4. March 23, 2010 at 5:08 AM

    And without those people, it will all collapse sooner than you might think

    Collapse is already unavaoidable. Social security and medicare alone have seen to this. Government cannot raise taxes enough to cover what they owe, even if every productive citizen stays hard at work and pays extra taxes.

    There will certainly be another financial crisis in the next ten years that will require drastic action by the government. I expect it to take the form of repudiation of the debt owed to foreign banks coupled with a repudiation of the social security benefits owed to those who have not yet retired and a massive inflation of the dollar to undercut the value of the benefits already being paid.

    Taxes alone will be insufficient. Higher tax rates are already leading to lower tax revenues. It is a tax death spiral.

    Most Americans won’t leave. They cannot imagine any country being better than the one they grew up in. A tiny few will fight to restore it to the way it was.

  5. March 23, 2010 at 6:03 AM

    I wish I could be one of the ones to leave.

    I sure hope that after we crash and burn, I’ll survive long enough to dance on the smoldering remains. I have nothing but contempt for what we’ve become.

  6. March 23, 2010 at 9:57 AM

    Dan,

    I never said that I was leaving but if I was I wouldn’t likely broadcast it for the world to see. Also, I don’t have much in the way of rules here as far as commenting but civility is required. Agreement with myself or the commenters is NOT required so if you have an actual point to make you are free to give it, but comments just to be snarky will be removed

  7. March 23, 2010 at 10:03 AM

    Hale,

    Yes, the system is already insolvent, but adding yet another tax in the form of unwanted healthcare (aka wealth transfer) will just cause those whom the tax will fall the hardest (young wealthy males) to leave the country thus making the situation worse and cause that death spiral to tighten and bring the end even quicker.

  8. March 23, 2010 at 10:45 AM

    You’ll have a reason to be offended when I post a comment about dancing on Dan’s smoldering remains. Until then, our comments are hardly comparable because mine are not aimed at a specific person commenting on this blog.

  9. March 23, 2010 at 10:58 AM

    Much like Nate at the pangalacticbloggerblaster, I would rather be gone when the fighting starts. I now believe it to be inevitable I just don’t know when it will start. As to where to go I really don’t know. And it would be different for each person. They may have family or friends in a foreign country or have taken trips overseas and seen where they might want to go. Each nation has its advantages and problems and one would have to resolve that for oneself. Among things to weigh are how foreigners are treated (obviously) stability, taxation, jobs, and climate (sunny places would have more people than say Greenland) etc. etc.

    As for giving out personal info like that, I don’t think that is wise. If I did go I would tell only those that needed to know and that doesn’t include teh internets

  10. 10 Professor Hale
    March 23, 2010 at 6:14 PM

    No one is going to start shooting anyone just because a few more poor people get health insurance. Get over it.

    I wish that was all it was. But if that was all it was, congress could have done it on a one page bill, changing the eligibility for medicaid. This bill was nothing less than stripping the liberty from tens of millions of Americans, with the promise to do so to hundreds of millions. It is nothing less than the organized effort to kill off private health insurance and enslave a few million Americans to pay the medical bills for other people.

    It is theft, and it is inherently unsustainable. It was sold by lying about every element of it, against the will of the majority and without regard to the constitutional protections of the citizens of the country.

    True, no one will shoot anyone over health care, but lots of people have been shot for a lot less than this legislation has done.

    Further, as long as you use terms like “Glenn Beck is god”, then it is hard to take you seriously about anything. Mr Beck is a radio commentator. He has never claimed to be God, or a god, or godlike nor have any of his fans made such a claim. Obama, on the other hand, has been likened as a messiah throughout his campaign.

  11. 11 Professor Hale
    March 23, 2010 at 6:15 PM

    Arielle,
    I would be happy to dance with you on the ashes. But I warn you my wife won’t like it one bit.

  12. March 23, 2010 at 6:25 PM

    Dan,

    I view my time on the internet as if a miranda warning had been read to me. Anything you say can and will be used against you… I read stories most every week of someone getting screwed over because of things they posted online.

    As for the rest, Hale answered it well enough for my tastes. The healthcare takeover is just one in a long line of events that will continue on for a long time yet, each one piling the load higher upon the proverbial camel’s back. Eventually it will break, for some it already has (Joe Stack,) and when it reaches a critical mass is when we will see real change, and not that which Obama promised and is enacting (which isn’t change, its just more of the same, only faster)

  13. March 24, 2010 at 4:37 AM

    Pr. Hale,

    Just do me a favor and make sure she’s not holding a gun at the time.

  14. March 24, 2010 at 12:18 PM

    Yes. Gollum features prominently. The bunker is equiped with state of the art A/V system home theater. The solar panels on my roof provide plenty of juice to watch LOTR over and over again in 500W of 7.1 suround sound power, while you live what is left of your “life”.

    Good luck with that snarkiness. In the end, it seems that is all you have.

  15. March 24, 2010 at 3:52 PM

    Dan,

    Can you name another western country that A) is as well armed, B) has as many militarily trained individuals, C) is as distrusting/disliking of its government, and D) has a history of rebellion.

    Also, there are billboards like this out there. Thanks to Laura Grace Robins for finding that.

  16. March 24, 2010 at 6:23 PM

    Dan,

    I’ll weigh in on this before Hale does but I am sure it would be much the same and I would be real interested in how you would try to refute what he has to say on the matter.

    As for the army and guard having problems with rednecks with guns, just who do you think they are having a problem with over in Iraq and Afghanistan? Arabic rednecks with guns. And as it takes a force of, at bare minimum, 10 times that of an insurgent force to put it down, but realistically 15-20 times, yes, the entire armed forces of the US would not be able to put down a significant uprising. There are approx 3 million active and reserve military, of which a great many are not combat troops. There are 100 million gun owners in this country. If only 0.3% (300,000) of those gun owners rebelled it would take the entire military to suppress it. Of course there are other military forces in this country in the form of the police depts, but I think that the point is already made. Up the percentage from 0.3 to a full 1% (1,000,000) and there would be no stopping of it.

    Take a look at the Cuban “Revolution.” Their army was as small as 300 men against a national military force of 30,000 to 40,000. It took them several years but they were successful in their rebellion despite their small numbers. They were not trained, simply determined. In much the same way as our farmers fighting against the Brits were untrained but determined.

    As for my points above
    A) There is no comparison
    B) yes there are examples such as Germany, which does not have near the armed populace that we do.
    C) the brits put up with cameras on every street corner. Whatever distrust of the gov they have obviously has no teeth, also they are disarmed.
    D) 2 large-scale armed rebellions in just over two hundred years. Perhaps France comes close. Italy has had many changes of governments but it largely does not affect the populace.
    As no other country shares all 4 of those attributes my point stands.

  17. March 25, 2010 at 4:16 AM

    DMM,
    If you don’t mind, I am going to stay out of this. Arguing with 12 year olds is boring. Dan’s faults in logic are many and obvious. As Einstein once said, “that one is so easy, I will let my driver answer”.

    Hint: Who do you think is in the National Guard and Regular Army? Why are you so sure they will unanimously side with this government? They didn’t the last time.


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